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Any news on support band? If you get time go to the Southampton Arms. If anyone here spots me at the gig, do come and say hi. I would have been in my old Tranmere 3rd kit black but it was cut up by a jealous ex…not sure i will be there for Sonnenberg, seen a picture. This seems to be becoming a common occurence at this venue. Could be because they just built student flats on top of the venue.
Just seen a different band there and NO encore was allowed. Nice work if you can get it. Re the gig at Bristol O2: Still, I have just stuck it to the man by electing to have my ticket posted, only costs an extra 20p and the stamp should cost them at least double that. The printing off charge is, unfortunately quite common these days. Im an expat living in Australia, cant imagine HMHB would be able to play here although Id happily offer my spare bed in Adelaide and I do have tim tams.
So whats the general feeling about a tribute band…. Half Man Half Anzac. Any Expats play bass? Depending on numbers, a taxi from there to Bilston should only be a couple of quid each.
Might be worth a visit. First race at 6. Though I do take the point about cruelty…. So after 25 years of stubborn resistance my bitter half is finally.
Just hope they play Look Dad and Fix It for her…. The bus takes you from Dudley to the Wolvo bus station that is even closer to Jivans. Not sure about Bridge Street or the last one back, thobut…. Although licensed, you can BYO drink. Thank you for the hints. Guests take a six-pack or similar into the restaurant? Interesting concept, never experienced that before…. Well, good form is not to take too much. A couple of ml larger bottles of Becks usually suffices for me. Just so expectations are managed, Jivans is a down-to-earth place.
They do do cutlery though. Yep, looking forward to it now. Got a room upstairs with a greasy fry up next day like last October. Decent Wspoons around the corner as well with a quicker than usual service. DPA given a rest after the last 11 gigs. I hope to be carrying a bottle of premium Dutch lager to share and over-indulge in, while wearing the Tour of Estonia t-shirt.
Anyone know the tram fare from Digbeth to Bilston? Return fare cheaper or same as two singles? With the Daytripper, it might be just as quick to take a train to Wolvo from the shiny new New Street and thence to Bilston. The Metro stretches the definition of mass rapid transport…. Last time I was there, last year, I arrived at my connection from a previous delayed train as the door was shutting and then the train just stood there for a minute while the guard shook his head at me….
New Street 1 Exxo 0. Turned out to be the one bit that was still concrete. Broken toe, never healed right either. Following earlier moshing-related toe injuries, I am wearing my work safety trainers tomorrow. I suggest not attempting the mashed potato in the old moshpit. It looks ludicrous and potentially harmful to toes. No mashing in the mosh. Hmm … not sure me Zamberlans would be too popular down there tomorrow.
DMs in the mosh for the first time in like 20 years? A phrophetic idea from Peter? Sponsoring the mash pits? For mash get smashed? For mosh get sloshed? Anyone recommend a decent pub for Bristol gig in Feb? Coming from that there London…. The Three Tuns in St. Georges Road just behind the Travelodge is only about a 5 minute walk and had five or six Arbour beers last time I was there.
A home fixture for me in Cardiff. Will check out some potential pre gig meet up venues and eateries and post here. Two gigs on consecutive nights, neither of which are easily commutable from Birkenhead? And around the time of the National League play offs? Either they expect Tranmere to go straight up or they are planning for another season of derby days at Chester and Southport? Great to see a gig lined up for Southampton. I think we can assume the latter, and that watching Rovers this season has left them under no illusions.
In all likelihood it will turn out that only four of these days required either club employees or fans to put in any sort of shift… and two of them are just the opening and closing league fixtures. Southampton looks possible, having missed the last one at the Robin 2. The main drinking areas in town are Bedford Place or Oxford Street. Mr Kuti has a bit of an empire. Possible, but more likely to be this band https: Tickets just arrove, stating doors open at 6.
My humble city welcomes you all. Does small dance of joy. Friendly crowd, for sure. There was an year-old at Bury St Edmunds who appeared to be having the time of his life. Mind you, he appeared to know all the words, which was pretty impressive. Hope no-one organises a walk-out at 23 minutes. We throw that in the collecting tray on the way out around these parts. Do come and see our new solid gold cycle lanes.
Thanks Chris and Dirk. Does seem a bit of a shame that gig is at O2 in Bristol…many better venues in my humble opinion!
Ah, but at the KPS you only get to see an outfit who are we hope soon to be crowned the best in the land. At an HMHB gig you get to see an outfit who already hold that title. Sounds about right to me. Might try to make it meself if so. Might end up being over a year between gigs for me at this rate. Very sorry to hear that, Exxo. For those going to Bristol gig.
Need to get David Prowse on the job. Am I right in thinking the next album will be released in ? This is based on a sophisticated algorithm I have created: Add 3 to release year of previous album. Can you solve the following conundrum?
With him is his ten year old daughter. The day after he has to go to Monsters of Rock up north somewhere by about 2PM. He needs to drop the daughter near London before MOR with his wife. Schoon — it is possible. A train departing the Isle of Thanet specifically Margate at 4. Venue is 10 minutes walk from station — CtSO.
The following day, the pair could take a train to Cheshunt, being the closest station to the M25 and deliver the daughter to the Toyota before the man continues to either Tottenham Hale or Liverpool Street and taking the tube to Kings Cross. Last one was the John Peel do, I think. NB10 will no doubt have checked his diary and found that he will be watching the Tour de France on television that month from the 2nd to the 24th. Any thoughts on pre-match boozer?
I think we will be sampling the Bag o nails in the afternoon assuming we set off early enough — its next to our hotel. The Hatchet looked good though. I will be travelling down from Nottingham, aiming to get there early so if others are in the Bag o nails I will wander along. The Gryphon is 5 mins away. Very friendly, very good beers. I now have 2 spare tickets for hmhb in Bristol tonight Will be in the three tuns pub from 7 … John.
I went to the Southampton Engine Rooms to see Therapy? The sound was great. I am sure we can do a much better job of filling the place. Not sure what will happen on HMHB night, but the band were on early at 8: Not sure what time the jazz snobs all went home as I cleared off pretty sharpish.
The Postcard also has sports telly I think, as does the Nook. However, the room in the Nook with the TV in is tiny, holds no more than about a dozen people. He will be at the gig on Saturday but not sure if he will be there in time for the rugby.
I have two spare tickets for Saturday night in Holmfirth going spare if anyone wants them — just the price we paid for them. Hopefully some more concerted requests for Godcore will have the same effect they had in Sheffield. Yep, really looking forward to Holmfirth. Bringing along at least one HMHB first timer. Could get tricky, but I will be at the front anyway. How many years have I been watching this band? Will be heading to Holmfirth by bus shortly after the football, then taking up temporary residence in a as yet undecided pub prior to the game.
If anyone wants the ticket at face value comment on here so that we can find each other. Ticket still available, will be in Brambles for the next five minutes or so before heading to the venue….
I have a room at The Robin booked. Not sure about Bilston yet — just started a new job last week so need to see if I can get the days off. First Floor Club, Feb Watching this division with huge interest. There fans deserve league football. Also, Hartlepool already mathematically safe! Even the Ev at home simultaneously I was surprised that they could muster only 6, plus the away yesterday.
The sun is shining too, so hopefully it will be a nice evening. In terms of pubs near the venue, The Titanic is about the closest I think. It did go a bit quiet when I went in there so they might be a bit overwhelmed by a big crowd. Coriander Lounge on the High Street is also a good curry, I am led to believe. Is there anywhere we can see the first Ted Bates statue that got taken down and replaced?
I want to pay homage to the man who sold Leicester to the current owners. And is there one of Craig David yet? Sorry Exxo, you have found my limit.
This is due to ticket demand, apparently. There was a gig in a community hall in Sheffield a few years back that did have a pitch right next to it. Anyway, yeah, I was only messing — as a descendant of generations of Liverpool seafarers, some of them Cunard men, winding up Southamptonians is in the blood. Well, apparently not — both Y Plas and the Tramshed have capacities of Having said that, when did ticket demand become an issue?
In their planning application, the Tramshed had to promise residents not to exceed more than 6 times a year. HMHB are not a band to relish an angry mob brandishing the minutes of a planning consultation meeting.
Not more than 6 times a year anyway. Hi Mick,,the gig is the Tramshed not the Uni or Solus. God knows what happened. Geoff Tramshed,Claire Rd Cardiff. Those arriving early might like to look in on one of the events taking place in the afternoon at Cardiff Central Library and the Chapter Arts Centre.
Scroll down here between London and Wrexham. I am intrigued by an ex-winnipeg blue bombers, american football running back,who his now a free agent. All of my suggestions are within about a ten minute walk of the train station and therefore, according to Guggle maps, within easy reach of the venue. Cardiff is a surprisingly compact little city. From a real ale point of view, number one is undoubtedly the City Arms.
Tucked down a side street, very close to the stadium. Another good pub is the Goat Major, top end of High Street, near the castle. Further down is the Cardiff Cottage. Same street, different name street name changes part way down. Last time I was there I ate in a Mexican one on the square called Wahaca.
Most of the restaurants seem to be Italian. Both chains and independents. It seems to be a favourite with celebs, judging from the photos on the wall. All the same, a hearty very tasty pizza was had for about a tenner. Apparently the Southampton gig has a change of timing. Had an email from the ticket vendor this morning to say doors open at 7: Cardiff is a home game for me as the above post mentions there are same great pubs in and around the venue The Goat Major which used to be The Bluebell not the Rose and Crown The Rose and Crown is now the Brewdog pub just to confuse everyone.
For those not sure of the venue come out of central station onto main road turn left walk for about yards passed a tattoo shop take the next left onto Clare Road and the venue is 50 yards on the left opposite the Tesco express which used to be The Neville just to make things worse. Tramshed is a great venue and the beer fairly priced, Live music and food can be found at Live Lounge and Brewhouse I think Curry Night are due to play cant possibly comment if David Grey will be one of the covers but you get the gist.
Would be nice to put faces to the names that leave comments. If so leave information on here, Of where to meet Tea-timish on Saturday. Concerning Pre-gig activities in Soton G may have mentioned the Dancing Man and more particularly the Platform Tavern are nearby-ish and recommended. What Eric says is all true, but as a local I would recommend, as an eaterie less than three minutes walk from the Tramshed, La Mangiatoia.
It is as you might guess an Italian, which is run by one bloke and the food is both cheap and sustaining. It is very small though so if you fancy going there you might want to phone up and book. The pizzas are very good value. I like the Tramshed but the draught beer there is pretty average-the closest pub to it is The Cornwall, oddly enough situated in Cornwall Street,which is a right turn past the venue with a supermarket on the corner. The Ted Bates statue is outside St Marys in a prominent position easily accessible.
All of these have good range of beers. We will be having a pint there en route to the Engine Rooms never been before and maybe on late on especially if the quiz night over-runs! I was facetiously enquiring after the original crap statue that looked like Milan Mandaric and which was taken away and disappeared before the more lifelike replacement was cast.
Transport would be needed, I think a bus runs fairly regularly from there into town. Hard to tell with a forename like Scrambled, which is clearly unisex. Likely to be rammed if the good weather continues. Have a good un, Everybody who is going. But I am looking forward to Cardiff.
Just had a swift half in the Goat Major. Pop back later for one of their award winning pies and a few drinkies. We went for Goat Major pre-, City Arms post-gig the later staying open until 2am made the decision easier.
Have a half in every one, and a kebab on Mill Road. Agree with Exxo wholeheartedly. Home gig for me, of course I live a whole yards away. If you want to go on a beer wander, the Mill Road area is the place to go: Plenty of bike parking though. I think it saw the most pre-gig DPAKs before the last two gigs. But for the little extra effort, I would walk past and go to the Flying Pig. These range from Alimentum Michelin star, yay! The best local curry house is the Taj Tandoori just down Cherry Hinton Road 2 minutes from the leisure park, opens at 5: I cannot stress how good this place is.
Great recommendations from the local expert. This article for example is undoubtedly full of delicious beer but, despite the title, the writer is not actually a pub-lover at all.
It contains, for example, the suggestion that you may wish to sit outside the offie on Bridge Street. Anyway, the way things are going I might have to move miles and become a part-time very part-time concert promoter before I ever get to see this band again.
It was a real treat to start and end a crawl there when in that neck of the woods. We got the train over and walked into the place and our hearts sank. Gone were the decent bench seats, to be replaced by diahorrea brown vinyl ones.
It fair spoiled my night, it did. Charles, I noticed you were tweeting with a Leeds fan, Niall Quinn, from the band. You can stay at mine — alone or with any amount of family — if and when it happens as long as you all buy a ticket for the gig. Just wondering if anyone from the urban or suburban West Midlands is driving down to Cambridge for the gig and could use a passenger to share the costs?
Flying Pig, Hills Road 7pm: Otherwise, see you at the gig! If coming by train, the Flying Pig is between the station and the venue. Desperate — Due to work commitments cannot make the gig on Thurs. Please say a big hello to Jitsu-G and Thorsten etc. I look forward to your excellent gig review. Looks like it will be next year before I will see the boys play again. Depending on how our earlier crawl goes, we will see you in the Flying Pig at 6-ish and follow you to the burger van, Chris.
Thereafter our paths will diverge until we head into the gig for 9pm. The weather seems set fair…. If I sidle up in The Flying Pig and say: Should be easy enough to spot you, DV.
One dye of that tincture covered his clothes, the cap upon his head, his boots, his face, and his hands. He was not temporarily overlaid with the colour; it permeated him. And to be staying in a guest house overlooking Paradise Fen, which I hear tell is the envy of the fens. Is that going to be free? If so, how much? The Pig is a top, top pub too.
This comes from within HMHB circles. So pay attention at the back. I have been asked to point out that this is categorically not the case and Carl is as committed as anyone could be to the HMHB cause.
His idea of going overseas is a trip to Birkenhead. It was just a question, based on something tangential someone said from just beyond the slight gravity pull of a n HMHB orbit. Wylam is a village several miles west from Newcastle. Difficult to reach for travellers from afar. Get these knees sussed and a pal then I may get the joy. First time for Lincolnshire! Newcastle, Leeds — brilliant! The closest they come to Thanet is Brighton: Schoon I have it on good authority that the offer of a gig in Canterbury would receive a favourable hearing.
Those look like quality venues and the Friday slots and general geographical aptness should mean fewer excuses round here. Wylam Brewery have slung a couple of million quid at the old Military Vehicle museum in Exhibition Park, making it their sole production site, a brewery tap and an event space. If Geoff is ever to prove that he can organise a Biscuit gig in a brewery this is his big chance.
Tickets booked and no worries about a decent pint on the night. Anyway it works a bit like this — someone who is willing to take a risk and promote a gig — either a professional who is out to make a good profit or an amateur who is a fan of the band or a bit of both both — finds a venue and dates when it is available, works out what the band can expect to make, and contacts Geoff with a proposal.
Also worth considering that Tranmere are at Maidstone last day of the season … unlikely to have much bearing but worth a try. Could we have the Dead Kennedys too? Of the three remaining this year Leeds is the most likely. Never seen them there and relatively easy. Ah, the Brampton paella … what larks.
And do you remember that Jagger? Cumbria is still shuddering. Be nice to see you again! Dr Desperate, be nice to meet you too. Two West Midlands gigs on the bounce, When did that last happen?. I will be incognito that night, of course.
Do the car aerials still have sky blue ribbons on them?. They won the cup, you know. Will Mick Coop be there?. The venue has gone though various changes since, and is now known as Ivy House. I thought it was elsewhere, but I have to say my mind is somewhat blurred by time and the fact that I could drink a lot more back then. The journey back to Brum on the bus was somewhat more eventful.
Nothing on their site, but the evening is free there. The last band I saw there was The Wurzels! Do folks meet up for a pint beforehand? Ah — for once a venue I can get home easily from! I missed the last Oxford gig so am looking forward to this. What was the pub of choice last time around? Might be worth getting a first class ticket: To have your parents retire to Worthing once may be regarded as a misfortune; to have them do so twice makes you DBT, trust me.
Great news, just along the coast from me Brighton. I believe that Gomez used to rehearse at the back of a pet shop in Worthing. Also, they citizens of Worthing, not Gomez have a contest every year for who can throw an orange the furthest out to sea.
My friend Mark won it a few years ago and made it into the Worthing Herald. Look forward to seeing some of you there at the gig or a nearby pub. Worthing may be a zombie-filled haunt of the undead, but it does have fairly decent train times back to civilisation I could almost walk. Getting up early and off to Oxford next morning will be my main challenge.
I like a challenge. Worthing You make my heart sing. You make everything … groovy. Worthing Worthing, I think I love ya. I digitized my old tape quite recently, which has the song. Had to stick an external speaker in the laptop to catch the lyrics, but enjoyed it all the more for that.
I have no recollection at all of the gig, having peaked far too early. I just got a train back there in the morning to collect my car. Then waited 20 years to go to my next one.
Suggestions for pubs in Lincoln: Gravitational considerations would suggest the former pre-gig, the latter post-. See if you agree. Mr Meatyard will be supporting cast on the March leg of the tour at Worthing and Oxford, flights booked etc. Anyone driving back in the Newark or Doncaster direction after the Lincoln gig? Nice one Mick, first train from Impsville after the gig is 5.
Enjoy the gig and the after-gig activities, I suggest a nice block of smelly cheese might do the trick. Two days to go for the gig at the Engine Shed, Whoopee! For Pre-Gig drinky poos. I shall be arriving in town around 5. Mick the Brown Harrington has not been accessorised pin badges flying around at gigs, tsk but it is being worn over a dashing khaki t-shirt with the legible part of the logo saying JOHN PEEL followed by small print about the Creative Arts Centre in Stowmarket. Would love to meet any of you lot.
Not a Turner prize judge in sight tho…. In the venue now. KOHV predicts early kick-off: Support had been and gone. Any suggestions on how to organise a pre-match piss-up next Friday? Apologies for the language.
Would like to see them put to good use. Plenty of time for some Camra Man research. Heading there after some scran at a nearby Indian restaurant. Not missing the start this time…. I think we will be up at the brewery around ish, after meeting up with a couple of Biscuit first timers in town.
Saw the Damned last night Hendrix-Tattoo. Excellent as always, and I got a commemorative tour tea towel. You can find our small plate menu here http: Have a great night Biscuiteers. Hoping someone will report back on the Slaughterhouse stout — can it live up to that description? Box from this shop in Notting Hill q v.
Anyone got contact details for Parsfan Paul? Did promise he could stay next time the Lads played in Leeds. Guess I should do this via Chris, soz. Now looking at the March double header for my next fix. This list of city centre bars http: Indeed City centre, then Hedley Verity, then the longest leg would be about yards to the Fenton, then yards to gig would be civilised spacing out of your activities. Good listing site that, Exxo, I shall refer to it in future ie tomorrow.
From my limited experience of Leeds, even pubs with a rating between 60 and 65 are pretty good. But price has to be a big factor to me too, so my favourite for a session of the 3 or 4 pubs hidden in the alleys off Briggate has to be the Angel Inn, a Sam Smiths house.
Better than my old favourite, the Scarborough opposite the train station , where the beer selection seems to have become rather bland.
I think it might be barely audible on the track. Containing both "Bodies"—in which Rotten utters "fuck" six times—and the previously censored "God Save the Queen" and featuring the word bollocks popular slang for testicles in its title, the album was banned by Boots , W. The album title led to a legal case that attracted considerable attention: The case was thrown out when defending QC John Mortimer produced an expert witness who established that bollocks was an Old English term for a small ball, that it appeared in place names without causing local communities erotic disturbance, and that in the nineteenth century it had been used as a nickname for clergymen: Steve Jones off-handedly came up with the title as the band debated what to call the album.
An exasperated Jones said, "Oh, fuck it, never mind the bollocks of it all. After playing a few dates in the Netherlands—the beginning of a planned multinational tour—the band set out on a Never Mind the Bans tour of Britain in December Of eight scheduled dates, four were cancelled due to illness or political pressure.
Before a regular evening concert, the band performed a benefit matinee for the children of "striking firemen, laid-off workers and one-parent families.
Originally scheduled to begin a few days before New Year's, it was delayed due to American authorities' reluctance to issue visas to band members with criminal records.
Several dates in the North had to be cancelled as a result. McLaren later admitted that he purposely booked redneck bars to provoke hostile situations. Early in the tour, Vicious wandered off from his Holiday Inn in Memphis , looking for drugs. When he was ultimately found, he received a beating from the security team hired by Warner Bros. Offstage he is said to have kicked a female photographer, attacked a security guard, and eventually challenged one of his own bodyguards to a fight—beaten up, he is reported to have exclaimed, "I like you.
Now we can be friends. Rotten, meanwhile, suffering from flu  and coughing up blood, felt increasingly isolated from Cook and Jones, and disgusted by Vicious. At the end of the song, Rotten, kneeling on the stage, chanted an unambiguous declaration, "This is no fun.
This is no fun—at all. Ever get the feeling you've been cheated? Good night"—before throwing down his microphone and walking offstage. Sid was completely out of his brains—just a waste of space. The whole thing was a joke at that point He would not discuss anything with me. But then he would turn around and tell Paul and Steve that the tension was all my fault because I wouldn't agree to anything. On 17 January, the band split, making their ways separately to Los Angeles. Vicious, in increasingly bad shape, was taken to Los Angeles by a friend, who then brought him to New York, where he was immediately hospitalised.
In Jamaica, Branson met with members of the band Devo , and tried to install Rotten as their lead singer. Devo declined the offer,  which Rotten also found unappealing. Cook, Jones and Vicious never performed together again live after Rotten's departure. Over the next several months, McLaren arranged for recordings in Brazil with Jones and Cook , Paris with Vicious and London; each of the three and others stepped in as lead vocalists on tracks that in some cases were far from what punk was expected to sound like.
These recordings were to make up the musical soundtrack for the reconceived Pistols feature film project, directed by Julien Temple, to which McLaren was now devoting himself.
On 30 June, a single credited to the Sex Pistols was released: In return for agreeing to record "My Way", Vicious had demanded that McLaren sign a sheet of paper declaring that he was no longer Vicious's manager. Among the claims were non-payment of royalties, improper usage of the title "Johnny Rotten", unfair contractual obligations,  and damages for "all the criminal activities that took place". Lydon performed with the band through , as well as engaging in other projects such as Time Zone with Afrika Bambaataa and Bill Laswell.
Vicious, relocated in New York, began performing as a solo artist, with Nancy Spungen acting as his manager. On 12 October , Spungen was found dead in the Hotel Chelsea room she was sharing with Vicious, with a stab wound to her stomach  and dressed only in her underwear. In an interview at the time, McLaren said, "I can't believe he was involved in such a thing.
Sid was set to marry Nancy in New York. He was very close to her and had quite a passionate affair with her. While free on bail , Vicious smashed a beer mug in the face of Todd Smith, Patti Smith 's brother, and was arrested again on an assault charge.
On 9 December he was sent to Rikers Island jail, where he spent 55 days and underwent enforced cold-turkey detox. He was released on 1 February ; sometime after midnight, following a small party to celebrate his release, Vicious died of a heroin overdose. Reflecting on the event, Lydon said, "Poor Sid. The only way he could live up to what he wanted everyone to believe about him was to die.
That was tragic, but more for Sid than anyone else. He really bought his public image. On 7 February , just five days after Vicious's death, hearings began in London on Lydon's lawsuit.
Cook and Jones were allied with McLaren, but as evidence mounted that their manager had poured virtually all of the band's revenue into his beloved film project, they switched sides. On 14 February, the court put the film and its soundtrack into receivership —no longer under McLaren's control, they were now to be administered as exploitable assets for addressing the band members' financial claims. McLaren, with substantial personal debts and legal fees, took off for Paris to sign a record deal for an LP of standards, including " Non, je ne regrette rien ".
A month later, back in London, he disassociated himself from the film to which he had devoted so much time and money. In the mids he released a number of successful and influential records as a solo artist. The Great Rock 'n' Roll Swindle , the soundtrack album for the still-uncompleted film, was released by Virgin Records on 24 February It is mostly composed of tracks credited to the Sex Pistols: McLaren himself takes the mic for a couple of numbers.
Several tracks feature Rotten's vocals from early, unissued sessions, in some cases with re-recorded backing by Jones and Cook. There is one live cut, from the band's final concert in San Francisco. The album is completed by a couple of tracks in which other artists cover Sex Pistols classics. The Sex Pistols film was completed by Temple, who received sole credit for the script after McLaren had his name taken off the production.
It is a fictionalized, farcical, partially animated retelling of the band's history and aftermath with McLaren in the lead role, Jones as second lead, and contributions from Vicious including his memorable performance of "My Way" and Cook. It incorporates promotional videos shot for "God Save the Queen" and "Pretty Vacant" and extensive documentary footage as well, much of it focusing on Rotten.
In Temple's description, he and McLaren conceived it as a "very stylized They were reacting to the fact that the Pistols had become the "poster on the bedroom wall of the day where you kneel down last thing at night and pray to your rock god.
And that was never the point The myth had to be dynamited in some way. We had to make this film in a way to enrage the fans". Cook and Jones continued to work through guest appearances and as session musicians.
In , they formed The Professionals , which lasted for two years. Jones went on to play with the bands Chequered Past and Neurotic Outsiders. He also recorded two solo albums, Mercy and Fire and Gasoline.
Now a resident of Los Angeles, he hosts a daily radio program called Jonesy's Jukebox. Having played with the band Chiefs of Relief in the late s and with Edwyn Collins in the s,  Cook is now a member of Man Raze. Following The Rich Kids' break-up in , Matlock played with various bands, toured with Iggy Pop , and recorded several solo albums.
He is currently a member of Slinky Vagabond. The court ruling had left many issues between Lydon and McLaren unresolved. Five years later, Lydon filed another action. Finally, on 16 January , Lydon, Jones, Cook and the estate of Sid Vicious were awarded control of the band's heritage, including the rights to The Great Rock 'n' Roll Swindle and all the footage shot for it—more than hours.
Sid and Nancy , directed by Alex Cox. In his autobiography, Lydon lambastes the film, saying that it "celebrates heroin addiction", goes out of its way to "humiliate [Vicious's] life", and completely misrepresents the Sex Pistols' part in the London punk scene. This film—directed, like its predecessor, by Temple—was formulated as an attempt to tell the story from the band's point of view, in contrast to Swindle' s focus on McLaren and the media.
On 9 March , the band sold the rights to their back catalogue to Universal Music Group. The sale was criticised by some commentators as a "sell out". In a television interview, Lydon accompanied a suggestion that the Hall of Fame " Kiss this!
Really, they're nothing more than that. According to a statement from the cosmetics firm, "the fragrance exudes pure energy, pared down and pumped up by leather, shot through with heliotrope and brought back down to earth by a raunchy patchouli.
The Trouser Press Record Guide entry on the Sex Pistols declares that "their importance—both to the direction of contemporary music and more generally to pop culture—can hardly be overstated". Although the Sex Pistols were not the first punk band, the few recordings that were released during the band's brief initial existence were singularly catalytic expressions of the punk movement.
The releases of "Anarchy in the U. Never Mind the Bollocks is regularly cited in accountings of all-time great albums: In , it was voted No. The Sex Pistols directly inspired the style, and often the formation itself, of many punk and post-punk bands during their first two-and-a-half-year run. Pauline Murray of Durham punk band Penetration saw the Pistols perform for the first time in Northallerton in May She later explained their importance:. Nothing would have happened without the Pistols.
It was like, "Wow, I believe in this. I'm going to do what I do and I don't care what people think. People forget that, but it was the main ideology for me: It was the attitude that got people moving, as well as the music. The Sex Pistols' 4 June concert at Manchester's Lesser Free Trade Hall was to become one of the most significant and mythologised events in rock history. Among the audience of merely forty people or so were many who became leading figures in the punk and post-punk movements: Wilson , founder of Factory Records , saw the band for the first time at the return engagement on 20 July.
A confrontational, nihilistic public image and rabidly nihilistic socio-political lyrics set the tone that continues to guide punk bands. Noting that "[i]mage to the contrary, the Pistols were very serious about music", he argues, "the real rebel yell came from Jones' guitars: In a time when music had been increasingly complicated and defanged, the Sex Pistols' generational shift caused a real revolution. Although much of the Sex Pistols' energy was directed against the establishment, not all of rock's elder statesmen dismissed them.
Pete Townshend of the Who said:. When you listen to the Sex Pistols, to "Anarchy in the U. It touches you and it scares you—it makes you feel uncomfortable. It's like somebody saying, "The Germans are coming! And there's no way we're gonna stop 'em! Along with their abundant musical influence, the Sex Pistols' cultural reverberations are evident elsewhere. Jamie Reid's work for the band is regarded as among the most important graphic design of the s and still impacts the field in the 21st century.
According to Nolan, "We very much took the view in looking at the character of the Joker that what's strong about him is this idea of anarchy. This commitment to anarchy, this commitment to chaos. The Sex Pistols were defined by ambitions that went well beyond the musical—indeed, McLaren was at times openly contemptuous of the band's music and punk rock generally.
Deprecating the music, McLaren elevated the concept, for which he later took full credit. He claimed that the Sex Pistols were his personal, Situationist-style art project: The Sex Pistols were as substantial as pop culture could get: Lydon, in turn, dismissed McLaren's influence: Maybe it was that he knew he was redundant, so he overcompensated. All the talk about the French Situationists being associated with punk is bollocks.
The Jamie Reids and Malcolms were excited because we were the real thing. I suppose we were what they were dreaming of. Toby Creswell argues that the "Sex Pistols' agenda was inchoate, to say the least. It was a general call to rebellion that falls apart at the slightest scrutiny. If they did anything, they made a lot of people content with being nothing. They certainly didn't inspire the working classes. It was over the edge of the precipice in social terms. They were actually giving a voice to an area of the working class that was almost beyond the pale.
In , critic Greil Marcus reflected on McLaren's contradictory posture:. It may be that in the mind of their self-celebrated Svengali It may also be that in the mind of their chief terrorist and propagandist, anarchist veteran The Sex Pistols were all of these things. A couple of years before, Marcus had identified different roots underlying the band's merger of music and politics, arguing that they "have absorbed from reggae and the Rastas the idea of a culture that will make demands on those in power which no government could ever satisfy; a culture that will be exclusive, almost separatist, yet also messianic, apocalyptic and stoic, and that will ignore or smash any contradiction inherent in such a complexity of stances.
Critic Bill Wyman acknowledges that Lydon's "fierce intelligence and astonishing onstage charisma" were important catalysts, but ultimately finds the band's real meaning lies in McLaren's provocative media manipulations.
Matlock later wrote that at the point when he left the band, it was beginning to occur to him that McLaren "was in fact quite deliberately perpetrating that idea of us as his puppets However, on the other hand, I've since found out that even Malcolm wasn't as aware of what he was up to as he has since made out. Music historian Simon Reynolds argues that McLaren came into his own as an auteur only after the group's break-up, with The Great Rock 'n' Roll Swindle and the recruitment of Ronnie Biggs as a vocalist.
As music journalist Dave Thompson noted in , "[T]oday, Swindle is viewed by many as the truth"  despite the fact that the movie purveys, among other things, a completely illiterate Steve Jones, a talking dog, and Sid Vicious shooting audience members, including his mother, at the conclusion of "My Way".
Temple points out that McLaren's characterization was intended as "a big fucking joke—that he was the puppetmeister who created these pieces of clay from plasticine boxes that he modeled away and made Johnny Rotten, made Sid Vicious. It was a joke that they were completely manufactured.
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