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Some of what some label "hate speech" may, depending on the circumstances, fall within the generally quite narrow exceptions for fighting words, threats, incitement, or certain kinds of false statements of fact.
But if one thinks a particular scenario or incident is unprotected on those grounds, one needs to mention the specific exception, and explain how the speech fits within that exception. Of course, one could argue though that's not what the people I'm referring to above are doing that the Supreme Court should create a new "hate speech" exception from First Amendment protection -- that the speech is currently protected, but ought to become unprotected.
But then one needs to explain precisely how one would define this new exception, since "hate speech" doesn't have a clear and well-accepted definition. And of course one should then respond to the foreseeable arguments about why this exception would be unacceptably vague or broad. Simply asserting that some speech is unprotected under current First Amendment law because it's "hate speech" doesn't demonstrate much of anything -- except that it demonstrates to those readers who are familiar with First Amendment law that the speaker isn't making a sound First Amendment argument.
A commenter to an earlier post wondered whether the relatively low rate of Senate confirmation of Bush appellate nominations in the past two years can be explained, in part, because Bush nominees were confirmed more rapidly in comparison to prior administrations earlier in his term. The short answer is "no. For comprehensive statistics on judicial confirmations from through February , one can consult this CRS report.
For judicial confirmations since then, one can look at the website of the Office of Legal Policy, which has data on confirmations during the th and th Congresses. For the current Congress, one can consult the data maintained by the Administrative Office of the U.
Consulting these sources, here is what one finds. President Carter had 56 appellate nominees confirmed. President Reagan had 83 appellate nominees confirmed over two terms for an average of President Bush 41 had 42 confirmed. President Clinton had 65 confirmed an average of President Bush 43 had 35 confirmed during his first term, and has had 24 confirmed since, for a total of This data shows a clear, and fairly consistent, downward trend over the past thirty years.
One also sees a downward trend in the confirmation percentage of appellate appointees. These figures from the CRS reports are as follows: Since then, it has improved. One factor that aided this percentage was the "Gang of 14" deal, that set aside the filibuster of several Bush nominees. The other was the slow rate at which the Bush Administration has made appellate appointments. In any event, it is worth noting that while President Bush has seen fewer appellate nominees confirmed to the bench than his predecessors, the percentage of his appellate nominees confirmed is slightly higher than that of President Clinton.
Circuit , Robert Conrad 4th Circuit , and Rod Rosenstein 4th Circuit , all of whom are extremely well-qualified nominees deserving of confirmation and two of whom are actively supported by the Washington Post , which has also called for quick action on Conrad. I would also like to see an end to the downward trend in appellate judicial confirmations and needless obstruction by either party, and I hope that the next occupant of the Oval Office -- whether Obama or McCain -- sees any and all qualified appellate nominees considered and confirmed without undue delay.
Over his 35 years in Congress, Mr. Young made himself into the most powerful Republican on the House Transportation Committee. But instead of using his power to steer Republicans down a principled, conservative track, he helped derail the GOP train in Young spends taxpayer money so wastefully he could make a liberal Democrat blush.
As chairman of the Transportation Committee from to , Mr. Young was directly responsible for one of the biggest boondoggles of the Republican majority — the highway bill. During his time in Congress, Mr. Young has come to represent the worst of a Republican Party that became too comfortable in power. In , a Republican majority passed a budget that actually cut spending. Today, only 40 Republicans out of GOP senators and representatives have sworn off earmarks, despite overwhelming support for earmark reform among the party's base and the general public.
Just 12 years ago, the Republican Caucus, including Mr. Young, voted for a bill to phase out farm subsidies. Three weeks ago, Mr. Young and many of those same members voted for a farm bill that exemplifies everything the GOP once stood against.
Somewhere between then and now, many congressional Republicans abandoned their former commitment to limited government, fiscal discipline and economic freedom. I just ran across this mysterious emotion, er, motion -- "craving oyer" -- in a Virginia case. This sentiment seems over 40 years dead in most places, but in the Old Dominion it's still going strong.
The Corpus Juris Secundum explains it citations omitted:. In modern practice, "oyer" means a copy of a bond or specialty sued on, given to the opposite party, in lieu of the old practice of reading it. Oyer is the counterpart of profert.
In the time of oral pleading, "to crave oyer" meant demanding to hear a reading of the instrument of which profert was made; but since the days of written pleading it has meant demanding to have a copy, that the party craving oyer, may, if necessary, spread on the record, to enable him or her to make a defense Under statutes, the archaic ceremony of craving oyer is unknown; oyer is superseded by a statute with respect to the production of papers or books for inspection. Bruce Bawer has a fascinating essay on the life and achievements of Vaclav Havel.
For those who may not know, Havel was a playwright who gave up a potential life of privilege as a government-sponsored writer to become a leader of the dissident movement in Communist Czechoslovakia in the s.
As a result, he spent years in horrible communist prisons. During that period, he also wrote The Power of the Powerless , in my view the best of all books on life in a totalitarian state. After the fall of communism in his country in thanks in part to the efforts of the dissident movement he helped lead , Havel became the first president of the new democratic Czechoslovakia. As a general rule, I'm not a big believer in heroes. Many of the people held up as such actually do more harm than good.
However, if any currently living person deserves to be admired as a genuine hero who really did make the world better through his courageous acts, Havel does.
Over at Doug Berman's sentencing blog, there is this interesting discussion about whether asking the sentencing judge to perform a wedding service could be a sneaky sentencing ploy. A former State Department officer has a proposal for U.
District Judge Gerald Bruce Lee: Before the judge sentences him on child pornography charges, he wants Lee to perform his wedding ceremony. Lee is considering the highly unusual request, under which Gons Gutierrez Nachman, 42, would tie the knot with his year-old Brazilian fiancee in the same Alexandria federal courtroom where he admitted having sex with three underage girls while posted overseas.
Prosecutors are not forever holding their peace. Legal ethicists said the judge should have strenuously objected. He's not there to perform weddings; he's there to send a man to jail. Professor Gillers is a very well-known legal ethicist. That what makes me reluctant to disclose that, in about , as a federal judge, I performed a wedding service for a young defendant after I sentenced him for being a felon in possession of a firearm. As I recall, I consulted with the prosecution and court security staff to ensure that no one objected.
The bride then came to court in her wedding gown, along with family and friends, and I performed the service.
The bride and groom then kissed, and the marshals then took the defendant back to begin serving his roughly 18 month prison term. I thought it was important to honor the request for the defendant for the service because I thought it would improve his prospects for rehabilitation if he knew he had lovely wife willing to wait for him.
Perhaps it would have seemed like more of a "ploy" if the defendant was facing an extremely long prison terms, as child pornographers typically are. I think we can leave this issue like many others to the sound discretion of trial court judges. AEI's Ken Green will moderate. Details about the event are here. A slim majority of the Court sought to advance this cause in two areas: Enumerated Powers commerce clause, Section 5 of the 14th Amendment and State Sovereignty sovereign immunity and commandeering.
Further, these cases tended to split along traditional ideological lines. These issues — enumerated powers and state sovereignty — have been largely absent from the jurisprudence of the Roberts Court thus far. While such traditional federalism concerns were quite evident in some prominent cases e.
This far, the action has shifted to questions of preemption and the dormant commerce clause. United Haulers , Ky. Davis suggest the Court may be ready to simplify or even scale back its enforcement of commerce clause limits on state regulatory authority. Consider, for instance, the divisions in Watters v. In short, the early returns suggest that federalism in the Roberts Court could be quite different than federalism in the Rehnquist Court.
Will this pattern continue, or will the Court return to the federalism battlegrounds of the Rehnquist years. Such cases could still be waiting in the wings and a more traditional ideological split in preemption or dormant commerce clause cases could yet emerge. To read the rest of this post, click here. Federalism was also the theme of two papers presented this morning.
This occurred because while the five right-leaning justices on the Rehnquist Court were relatively united in cases constraining Congressional authority to constrain state autonomy, the justices divided in cases considering federal constraints on state authority, such as dormant commerce clause and preemption cases.
Whether this trend continues in the Roberts Court, Joondeph concludes in his paper, may depend upon the extent to which the Chief Justice and Justice Alito are more supportive of state autonomy in dormant commerce and preemption cases.
Rather, many conceive federalism as about the allocation of power between the state and federal governments and, in the preemption context, the consequences of constitutional exercises of federal power on residual state autonomy.
Thus, if the judiciary should be active in policing the boundaries of federalism, it would make sense that justices who support limits on federal power might also support many limitations on state autonomy. As a consequence, Mikos argued, Congress may not be particularly prone to intrude upon state autonomy as some academics presume.
Even if the populist demand for federalization is less than is often presumed, and there is more widespread support for state and local authority than some expect points I am willing to accept , massive federalization has occurred in many areas traditionally left to state and local governments, and often without any efficiency or interstate externality-control justification. While Mikos opted to focus on the popular affinity for state and local control, popular preferences are often not determinative as to whether the federal government intervenes in a given area.
Concentrated interests, both economic and ideological, often exert greater influence on policymaking and seek federalization to establish a uniform federal policy on a matter of concern. Political officials and elites can also benefit from federalization, both to enhance their own power or diminish political accountability. In this regard, such analyses seek to situate the Court in the broader context of American politics, political regimes, and governing coalitions.
While Justices may reflect the Presidents that nominated them, and the time at which they were nominated, they may also respond to broader political changes and social movements. Thomas Keck noted that regime politics may produce certain predictions about how a given Court will act.
Here Keck included cases in which the Court reached results that he believes the Administration favored even if no SG brief was filed, or even if an SG brief was filed perhaps reluctantly, due to institutional constraints or other considerations on the other side.
Keck then considered ways in which the Court could actively assist a presidential administration by invalidating or limiting unfavorable policies. But I do quarrel with some of the examples he provided. Keck cited Rapanos v. Corps of Engineers , had refused to adopt a narrowed reading administratively. As an illustration, Seigel pointed to Supreme Court doctrine on the use of racial considerations in education.
Whereas it was once clear, and largely uncontested, that the Equal Protection Clause allowed local school boards to consider race in pupil assignments, the Roberts Court has now ruled otherwise in the Parents Involved. It was the consequence of a political movement, rather than mere lawyering and legal advocacy. While some changes in constitutional law doctrine in political terms, and many scholars analyze court behavior in this fashion, Seigel noted that the Court does not describe what it does in such terms.
Rather, judges and justices characterize judicial decision-making as akin to umpiring an athletic contest. As then-Judge Roberts explained at his confirmation hearing, his job was to call balls and strikes, not impose his preferred rules on the game. While Chief Justice Roberts has expressed a willingness for the Court to grant more cases its docket remains small, and while Roberts has often stated a desire to have more unanimous cases, there have quite a few divisive decisions at least there were last term.
Or an ideological political movement of which the Administration may be a part or may owe some allegiance?
Bush , while others are not G. In the balance of her remarks, Karlan considered how the Court chooses between facial and as-applied challenges and the consequences of such choices. Carhart , for instance, the Court upheld the federal Partial-Birth Abortion Act against a facial challenge, despite the lack of a health exception. This is not much help to the potentially disenfranchised voters, Karlan noted, as it would be particularly difficult for any potentially disenfranchised voter to challenge the statute until after the relevant election.
Not only are such challenges difficult to bring, in claose electoral contests they cannot be brought without an understanding of the partisan political consequences of such litigation. Through these examples, Karlan sought to suggest that decisions that appear quite modest or minimal on the surface can actually be quite significant, and have far-reaching consequences.
Forcing litigants to file as-applied challenges may effectively insulate problematic statutes from meaningful judicial review. The most obvious example here is Justice White, who was replaced by Justice Ginsburg. Last night I had the pleasure of debating gay marriage against Doug Kmiec at the lawyer's chapter of the Federalist Society in Chicago. You can read Professor Kmiec's kind and generous account of the debate at Slate.
After about 3 hours of debate, during which many people spoke, twenty remained to vote on the resolution. Gay marriage lost, We always seem to lose these popular votes.
Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit -- three of which are classified as "judicial emergencies" and one of which has been open for almost 15 years. There were five vacancies when the article went to press, but Steven Agee was recently confirmed --the first confirmation to the Fourth Circuit since Given there are 15 seats on the Fourth Circuit, the court is operating at less than 75 percent strength.
As the article makes clear, Senators from both parties have contributed to the obstruction of fourth Circuit nominees for some time. Senator Jesse Helms, in particular, kept one North Carolina seat open for over six years during the Clinton Administration because Senate Democrats had refused to confirm his protege Terrence Boyle to the court when nominated by the first President Bush.
Senator John Edwards returned the favor when President Bush was elected, blocking Boyle's confirmation as payback. And since then things have only gotten worse. The political fights over judicial nominations have steadily escalated over the past twenty years, and there is no sign it will let up soon. The president has nominated reliably conservative lawyers to fill most of the vacancies, and the Democrat-controlled Senate has failed to act on most of the nominations.
Meanwhile, the work of the circuit grinds on, with fewer and fewer judges to shoulder the burden. Since Democratic Party leaders are feeling confident about their prospects for retaking the White House this fall, chances that any nominees beyond Agee will be confirmed before Bush leaves office in January range from slim to none, most experts say. And if the next president is a Democrat, his or her nominees could remake the 4th Circuit into a more moderate appeals court for a generation or more.
The article also reports that the Fourth Circuit has managed to operate short-handed quite well, at least thus far. Despite the judicial shortage, the 4th circuit continues to dispose of cases quicker than almost any other circuit.
But it does so while granting oral argument in fewer cases than its counterparts, and by issuing fewer substantive opinions explaining its decisions. The 9th Circuit had the slowest, at nearly 16 months.
The national average was slightly longer than 12 months. Judges in the 4th Circuit also consistently rank as among the hardest-working in the federal appeals courts. In fiscal year , appeals per active judge were terminated on the merits. Circuit had the fewest, at The national average was But the 4th Circuit granted oral argument in less than 12 percent of its cases in , far and away the smallest percentage of any circuit in the country.
The average for all circuits was nearly 26 percent. That same year, the circuit also issued the lowest percentage of published opinions, at just over 6 percent. The average for all circuits was just under 16 percent.
Chief Judge Karen J. Williams, a appointee of the first President Bush, says the court is making the best of a bad situation. The circuit has been able to stay current with its workload so far without suffering any loss in quality—in part by relying on its senior judges, and by inviting trial judges in the 4th Circuit and senior judges from other circuits to sit by designation, she says.
Cornell lawprof Eduardo Penalver's praise of California Proposition 99 for claiming to protect homes, but not other property against development takings raises the more general question of whether homes should get more protection against eminent domain than other property. Penalver is perhaps the leading academic advocate of the view that they should see this article for a statement of his views. I take the opposite position. As a general rule, all property should get the same level of protection against takings, regardless of function.
The standard "subjective value" argument for giving homes a special status in takings law is much less compelling than many believe.
And even if homes do have higher subjective value than other property uses, the subjective value problem is only one of many good reasons for restricting takings. The others all apply with equal force to other property uses. The main argument for giving homes special status in takings law is that they have unusually high "subjective value," the benefit that the owner derives from his property over and above its market price.
As scholars have long recognized, the use of eminent often destroys subjective value because owners are only compensated for the "fair market value" of the property condemned by the government. Although it's possible to increase the level of compensation above the market price as is done in Britain and Canada , it's hard to calculate subjective value with any precision. Thus, governments are highly likely to undercompensate the owners of condemned property in cases where the land in question has high subjective value.
For this reason, many argue that the law should it make it more difficult to condemn high subject value property than property that has little value to the owners beyond its market price. Homes, Penalver and others claim, tend to have higher subjective value than other properties. For example, many people have lived in the same house or apartment for years and have a strong emotional attachment to it.
Others have strong attachments to their neighborhoods or to friends and relatives who live nearby. This valuable "social capital" might destroyed if they were forced to move. It is indeed true that homes often have high subjective value. But at the same time, there are many homes that do not. On the other hand, there are many non-residential uses of property that have high subjective value of their own. People like Susette Kelo and many of people expelled from their homes in the notorious Poletown case have lived in the same neighborhood for decades and have strong social ties there.
But the Susette Kelos of the world are offset by the many homeowners who are more like me. I've only lived in my current apartment for a few years, don't know most of the neighbors, and attach relatively little subjective value to my condo.
In a highly mobile society where many people move regularly, my case isn't that unusual. By contrast, many non-residential property uses generate as much or more subjective value as most homes do.
Perhaps the most common type of property condemned in "blight" or economic development takings is small business property. And many small businesspeople surely attach high subjective value to their businesses. Many would lose a large part of their customer base and community ties if forced to move by eminent domain, and these losses aren't included in the fair market value of the condemned land. Churches and private conservation areas are two other examples of non-residential property uses with high subjective value.
Certainly, many churches have value to their clergy and worshippers that go far beyond the market price of their land and physical infrastructure. Both are often threatened by "economic development" condemnations, as Jonathan Adler and I discuss in this article see also my discussion of the vulnerability of churches to takings in this post.
In sum, the distinction between homes and other property is a very poor proxy for subjective value. Many homes have little or no subjective value. And many of the most commonly condemned types of non-residential property tend to have high subjective value of their own. Even if the subjective value rationale for limiting takings does apply more strongly to homes than other properties, there are a large number of other reasons for limiting condemnation that apply equally to all property.
I can't possibly discuss all of them here. But my Supreme Court Economic Review article criticizing Kelo-style "economic development" takings considers several in detail. Among the most important are 1 the tendency of eminent domain to be "captured" by powerful interest groups who use it to victimize the politically weak for their own benefit, 2 the flaws in the political process that make it difficult or impossible for voters to monitor the quality of takings initiated by government, 3 the superior efficiency of the market in allocating land to its most highly valued uses, and 4 the tendency of development takings to cause net economic harm to the very communities they are supposed to benefit.
All of these reasons for restricting takings - and a number of others raised in my article - apply just as much to commercial and nonprofit property uses as they do to homes. Your home should indeed be protected against condemnation like a castle. But so should your business, your church, and any other legitimate uses that you might have for your land.
Bagley , a three-judge panel of the U. Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit split over an interesting question in a capital habeas case: Judge Rogers wrote the opinion of the court, joined by Judge Gibbons.
Chief Judge Boggs dissented in part. Here is how Judge Rogers summarized the case in his majority opinion: The district court granted the writ. While the waiver was not explicit by the state, Rogers noted, it was unambiguous and unequivocal.
On November 25, , the district court granted both motions. We are aware of no binding authority that says that such conduct by the State is not an express waiver of the exhaustion requirement.
So if I harshly criticize Reps. My criticism could be perfectly accurate. It could be an expression of my opinion, including on political, social, or religious issues. My actions would be a crime. This is clearly unconstitutional. Many, though not all, lower courts have held the same whenever the statement is on a matter of public concern, even about a private figure. But in any case even the specific holding in Hustler is enough to make the statute facially overbroad. This law has no such limitation.
From this perspective, secrecy not only serves to advance executive functions, but also to insulate the executive branch from oversight by other branches and the public at large. Clark provided a useful typology of accountability mechanisms based upon how they were created and where they are situated, ranging from those that are wholly internal to the executive branch such as the Office of Legal Counsel opinions, the Office of Professional Responsibility, etc.
In each of these cases, Clark observed, assertions of secrecy can undermine, if not wholly disarm, the accountability mechanisms. Without question, secrecy in national security and other matters is sometimes essential though downplayed by clark. There are some things governments must do under cover. Yet Clark is certainly correct when actions and their justifications are kept secret, even formal accountability mechanisms may cease to function.
Striking the right balance is particularly difficult. To focus on an example Clark used as a case study — NSA surveillance — some degree of secrecy is necessary to ensure the effectiveness of certain types of surveillance activities.
At the same time, the high degree of secrecy about this particular program made it particularly difficult for Congress let alone the public to ensure that Executive Branch was complying with relevant statutory and constitutional constraints.
Sai Prakash spoke on the theory of the unitary executive in the Bush Adminsitration. In practice, Prakash argued, much of what occurs within the executive branch occurs independent of meaningful Presidential oversight. A similar consensus appears to exist abroad at least in public. Many individuals, within the administration and without, believe that such measures are necessary for the security of the nation, and must be pursued even in the face of substantial opposition.
This makes it necessary for political elites to disclaim existing policies. Yet there is relatively little public concern for detention policies.
That is, the average voter is far more concerned about other issues, so the political consequences of maintaining existing policies are virtually nonexistent. So political elites can condemn existing policies, but need not do anything to change them.
One implication of this, Margulies suggests, is that it can be particularly difficult to control or discipline unpopular exertions of executive power absent electoral change. Adrian Vermeule sought to look forward to the next administration, and consider how a President McCain or Obama will approach executive power. As explained by Vermeule, there is a tendency for Presidents to successfully advance policies that appear contrary to their ideological orientation. So, for instance, the public is more suspicious of hawkish policies from a hawkish president than from a dovish president, and vice-versa.
What does this mean for the next Administration? This asymmetry in political constraints means in technical terms that the mode and the mean of presidential policies are likely to diverge.
Consider the Bush Administration: Looking forward, this means that on a handful of issues, it is likely that Obama could advance quite right-wing policies. The difficulty, of course, is that it can be difficult to know where a given President is likely to advance policies contrary to his ideological orientation.
In this interesting post on Prawfsblawg , prominent property scholar Eduardo Penalver argues that California Proposition 99 institutes a useful distinction between homes and other properties by protecting the former, and not the latter against takings:. Insofar as the backlash against Kelo was rooted in the popular views about the special status of residential property, I argued, it seemed strange to me that the proposed legislative responses have tended to sweep much more broadly, encompassing all privately owned land.
It has always seemed to me that property rights groups were trading on the rhetorical and cultural power of homeownerhip in the service of a much more expansive agenda than the public reaction to Kelo merited on its own terms. One problem with Penalver's defense of Prop 99 is that it doesn't actually provide any real protection even for owner-occupied homes. I documented this point elsewhere e. Penalver himself notes that he would have preferred protection against eminent domain to be extended to "long-term renters as well, and even to certain categories of commercial property.
Penalver is perhaps correct to say that the general public cares much more about protecting homes against takings than about protecting other types of property. He is also right that some libertarians want to use the reaction against Kelo to provide protection for property rights that goes beyond protecting homes.
However, both statements need to be qualified. The fact that the public cares more about protecting homes against takings than protecting other property doesn't mean that it is indifferent to the latter. Other than homes, the most common type of property condemned for development purposes is small business property. I suspect that most of the public is only slightly less sympathetic to small businesspeople who lose their commercial property to eminent domain than it is to homeowners who lose their residences.
Indeed, survey data compiled in recent articles by Janice Nadler and Shari Diamond here and yours truly here suggest that public opposition to Kelo is pretty stable in polls using different kinds of wording, regardless of whether the question refers to the taking of homes or not. Some of the surveys cited in Nadler and Diamond's piece show that anywhere from 39 to 53 percent of the public oppose the use of eminent domain against any property for any reason.
As the authors caution, these results should not be taken literally. But they do suggest that public opposition to takings isn't narrowly confined to concerns about homes.
Penalver is right that libertarians would like to see broader protection for property rights than majority public opinion currently supports. However, he exaggerates somewhat when he states that "[y]ou can see this manipulation of Kelo not only in the attempt to protect all private land from redevelopment takings, but also in the tendency of property-rights groups to bundle anti-Kelo initiatives with other elements of the property rights agenda, such as the anti-rent control provision of Prop.
Of the thirteen anti-Kelo referendum initiatives placed on state ballots since ten of which passed , only four included regulatory takings or rent control provisions that covered "other elements of the property rights agenda. The other nine ballot initiatives all of which passed overwhelmingly stuck narrowly to the Kelo issue of forbidding the condemnation of property for transfer to private properties. I discuss these initiatives in detail in my forthcoming article on post-Kelo reform pp.
Penalver is also wrong to assume that state "legislative responses to Kelo" usually protect "all privately owned land. Many also exclude vacant lots, property that poses a threat to public health, and other categories. In sum, it is true that libertarians want more protection for property rights than does the majority of the public. We wouldn't be libertarians if we didn't! On the other hand, the public's concerns go beyond a narrow focus on homes.
And in many respects, the libertarian view is closer to the general public's position than is the current law in most states, which continues to allow the condemnation of both residential and other property with few or no restrictions. As I document in detail in my paper on post-Kelo reform linked above, the majority of the 42 states that passed reform legislation in the wake of Kelo have enacted laws that pretend to protect property rights without actually doing so to any significant extent.
In that respect, Proposition 99, with its fake "protections" for property rights, is far closer to the norm than Proposition Eduardo Penalver clarifies his position somewhat in the comments here. I agree with much of what he says in his comment, but have two minor disagreements. Second, Eduardo is incorrect in claiming that Prop 99's focus on residential property is "a unique innovation in the anti-Kelo arena.
Over the last two days, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke has twice expressed " significant concern" about inflation , citing the rapid increase in energy and food prices as well as the general rise in the cost of imports.
This is viewed as an important sign that the Fed may view inflation as a greater risk than economic growth. As we discuss in our book, War and Taxes , this type of concern over rising inflation is a common feature of wars. During the Revolutionary War, reliance on currency finance led to a collapse of the continental currency. It was even worse in the Civil War for the Confederacy, where the government effectively financed the early stages of the war by printing money.
Prices for staples like wheat, bacon, and flour rose by as much as 2, percent between and In fact, there are no extreme price peaks [between and ] that are not accompanied or preceded by a war. By the same token, in almost every war Congress has been urged to adopt war taxes not just for revenue, or to balance the sacrifices on the battlefield as discussed in my post yesterday on the draft , but to fight inflation.
Nothing else can save us from ruin. So, does that mean we can expect politicians to justify the adoption of war taxes as a response to inflation if the rise in energy and food prices spreads more generally? One big change in the past quarter century since Vietnam has been the increased importance of the Federal Reserve Board itself. And, to a large extent, it has been successful in keeping inflation relatively low even in the face of rising deficits.
Tax is now considered too crude an instrument for the job. Nevertheless, it would not be surprising to see at least some anti-inflation rhetoric used in support of tax increases if the Fed falters and to see renewed support for more narrowly-tailored measures such as tax indexing as a general response. Even those of us who don't share his political views can revel for the moment in his historic achievement, and in the dramatic, positive changes in American society that opened his path to the nomination.
Members of the Gujjar tribe blocked roads into the city and clashed with police as they demanded to be moved to the bottom of society to gain preferential treatment for university placements and government jobs. More than 45, police fired tear gas as Gujjar mobs burnt tyres, hurled stones at passing cars and squatted on roads. If you didn't get to see it, I commend it to you. So I can't independently vouch for its accuracy. I can vouch for its entertainment value, however--I thought it was really well done, compelling viewing.
My wife, who generally has little patience for historical programs of this sort, also found it mightily entertaining. I was especially impressed with how they brought to life the debates of the age, presenting viewpoints sympathetically and identifying the clash of positions.
The episode on the Declaration of Independence was really well-done I think, and in particular, I learned a lot about the concerns of those opposed to independence. I'm sure there are many of you out there who know much more about this than I do, so I just pass along my opinion as a viewer with a casual interest in the subject matter.
The increasingly repressive government of Russian Prime Minister and former President Vladimir Putin has now gone so far as to ban satirical criticism of his regime on TV broadcasts:. On a talk show last autumn, a prominent political analyst named Mikhail Delyagin offered some tart words about Vladimir Putin. When the program was televised, Delyagin was not. His remarks were cut and he was digitally erased from the show, like a disgraced comrade airbrushed from an old Soviet photo.
The technicians may have worked a bit hastily; they left his disembodied legs in one shot. Delyagin, it turned out, has for some time resided on the so-called stop list, a roster of political opponents and other critics of the government who have been barred from television news and political talk shows by the Kremlin.
It is also a striking indication of how Putin has relied on the Kremlin-controlled television networks to consolidate power, especially in recent elections. Putin is now prime minister but is still widely considered Russia's leader. As the International Herald Tribune article linked above points out, virtually of Putin's prominent political opponents are banned from making statements on TV by the "stop list" - including former prime minister Mikhail Kasyanov, Vladimir Ryzhkov, and former world chess champion Garry Kasparov, leader of the main liberal democratic opposition party.
Since he became President in , Putin's regime has taken control of every major TV station in Russia, all of which are now either owned by the government or have been forcibly transferred to private owners who are Putin allies. So the regime can impose its "stop list" across the board. The entire situation is an abject lesson in the dangers of government control of broadcast media.
Ironically, the leaders of the Communist Party are among those complaining that they have been prevented from appearing on TV by the stop list. Another ironic victim of Putin's media policies quoted in the article is political talk show host Vladimir Pozner , who claims that the government forced him to stop interviewing opposition leaders on his show.
I remember Pozner well from his days as a prominent official apologist for the Communist government back in the s, at which time he defended the regime's imprisonment of dissidents such as Andrei Sakharov. In fairness, he has since apologized for some of what he did in those days, though the timing of his mea culpas leaves some room for doubt about their sincerity. It's difficult to feel sorry for the likes of Pozner and the Communists.
Opposition speech was repressed far more thoroughly when they were in power than it is under Putin today. If Pozner had dared to put dissidents on his show back in the s at least before or so , he would likely have suffered a much worse fate than merely being censored.
That said, even totalitarians and hypocrites deserve to have their freedom of speech protected. Whatever we may think of Pozner, official censorship is not the right remedy for his misdeeds.
And Putin's "stop list" has of course affected many who are far more worthy of our sympathy. The New York Times blog reports: The gallery is across the street from the southern entrance to The New York Times building.
The police officers declined to answer any questions, and at first would not permit reporters to speak with Mr. Arboleda, who was wearing a black T-shirt and making cellphone calls from inside the makeshift gallery.
Arboleda, who is 27, said in an interview: The interview was abruptly ended as Mr. Arboleda was led off to the Midtown South police precinct station for what he called an interrogation Arboleda called reporters to let them know that he had been released I appreciate that the Secret Service have an important and difficult job to do, but based on this account -- and I realize that it may be in error or incomplete -- it seems to me they went beyond what is allowed. It makes sense that they would have talked to Arboleda, and tried to figure out what he was doing in the storefront.
They could well have decided to watch him for the duration of the exhibition and after. But I don't see that there was probable cause to believe he had committed a crime, which was what it would take to do more than briefly stop him and talk to him a brief stop requires only reasonable suspicion.
Nor would there be probable cause to detain him if he had told them that he just wanted to go on setting up his exhibition, and didn't want to talk further to them though again there may have been ample reason to watch him closely. Using the words "the assassination of Hillary Clinton" isn't a crime. Making threats is a crime, but I see no way how there could be probable cause to see the writing as an actual threat as opposed to something that merits some questions and more watching.
Now perhaps the removal and two-hour interview of Arboleda was consensual, in which case no probable cause was required. But from the newspaper report that doesn't seem especially likely. Note that "Special Agent Eric P. Zahren, a spokesman for the Secret Service in Washington, emphasized in a telephone interview that the agency did not seek to shut down the show.
A reader points to this AP article:. The bride said she was a virgin. When her new husband discovered that was a lie, he went to court to annul the marriage — and a French judge agreed. The ruling ending the Muslim couple's union has stunned France and raised concerns the country's much-cherished secular values are losing ground to religious traditions from its fast-growing immigrant communities In its ruling, the court concluded the woman had misrepresented herself as a virgin and that, in this particular marriage, virginity was a prerequisite.
But in treating the case as a breach of contract, the ruling was decried by critics who said it undermined decades of progress in women's rights. Marriage, they said, was reduced to the status of a commercial transaction in which women could be discarded by husbands claiming to have discovered hidden defects in them. The court decision "is a real fatwa against the emancipation and liberty of women. We are returning to the past," said Urban Affairs Minister Fadela Amara, the daughter of immigrants from Muslim North Africa, using the Arabic term for a religious decree In its judgment, the tribunal said the marriage had been ended based on "an error in the essential qualities" of the bride, "who had presented herself as single and chaste.
Article of the Civil Code states that when a couple enters into a marriage, if the "essential qualities" of a spouse are misrepresented, then "the other spouse can seek the nullity of the marriage. Indeed, the court ruling states that the woman "acquiesced" to the demand for an annulment "based on a lie concerning her virginity.
Here's my very quick thought: In principle, it seems to me that a spouse should be free to divorce the other spouse when the marriage was based on a lie. I think it's silly to care about whether one's bride was a virgin, but people are entitled to care about qualities that I think are irrelevant, as well as the indubitably relevant quality of truthfulness.
Given this, it seems to me not very important whether this is called a divorce or an annulment, especially given that as I understand it French law generally allows no-fault divorce, at least when there's mutual consent. Now I would be troubled if the law saw lack of virginity as a quality that is "essential" but other things as qualities that aren't "essential.
I would also be troubled if the law encourages disputes about exactly what was said by one spouse to the other, since I suspect this would lead to lots of lying and not much truth-finding. But if the couple agrees about the facts, and agrees that, to quote the AP's paraphrase of the court ruling, "in this particular marriage, virginity was a prerequisite," then allowing the annulment seems to me fine. In fact, it's better for the court to focus on what was essential to the parties rather than to select which qualities are "objectively" essential and which aren't objectively essential.
I'm a big believer in decisionmaking using objective standards in lots of situations — but two people's decision about what's important to them about a spouse doesn't strike me as a situation that calls for such objective standards. And, I stress again, if the parties could have gotten divorced in any event, why the strong objection to letting them get an annulment instead?
Now I understand that there is a lot of insistence on virginity in many Muslim families and some non-Muslim ones, though my sense is that in France this insistence is likely much less common among the non-Muslim population.
As I said before, I think this is a bad basis for choosing a spouse, and I suspect that a cultural acceptance of this basis leads to all sorts of emotional pain. On top of that, my guess is that the virginity rule is definitely not applied in a sex-neutral way, which makes it even more improper in my view.
But, as I said, people are entitled to choose their spouses based on any reason at all, and to my knowledge French law allows them to agree to divorce based on any reason at all again, at least if both agree. Saying that they may also annul the marriage based on any misrepresentation that they saw as material strikes me as no different: It's an accommodation of people's choices about whom to have a tremendously important relationship with, and we should generally accommodate those choices even when we think they are partly unwise — I say partly because while the insistence on virginity strikes me as unsound, the concern about the lie strikes me as much more proper — or reinforce unsound community attitudes.
At the same time, I should note that this is just a general principles judgment, coupled with the limited information about French law and the decision given in this story. It may well be that there are important legal details that I'm missing that would indeed justify the outcry.
Under an executive order expected to be announced today, police Chief Cathy L. I'm on the road, and can't say much in detail about this right now, but I see no way this could be legal. Thanks to Kris Baumann for the pointer. An amusing discovery order from yesterday; thanks to Michael Barclay for the pointer.
Senate primary early Wednesday,. Kelleher, an year-old attorney from Butte, will challenge Democrat incumbent Max Baucus in November. Baucus is a five-term U. He has run as both a Democratic and a Green Party candidate, and he has advocated more gun control.
Kirk Bushman, an industrial facilities designer from Billings, and former Montana House Majority Leader Michael Lange were thought to be the front-runners in the Republican primary. But with 96 percent of precincts reporting at 1 a. Wednesday, Kelleher had a wide lead over both of them with 36 percent of the vote. Lange had 23 percent, and Bushman had 21 percent. There is some speculation that Kelleher won simply because, having run for office so many times before, he had high name recognition among primary voters in a crowded field.
The Senate has confirmed President Bush's appellate judicial nominees at an amazingly slow rate. Despite pledges to confirm three additional nominees before Memorial Day, the Senate has only confirmed two nominees all year, while numerous well-qualified nominees sit and wait. By comparison, a Republican Senate confirmed eight of President Clinton's appellate nominees during his last year in office. Since January , the Senate has confirmed eight appellate nominees, whereas a Republican Senate confirmed fifteen during President Clinton's last two year.
It's certainly possible that the Senate rush several nominees through over the summer, but even with such an effort, this Congress will stand out for its snail-like pace. So it should be no surprise that Republicans are upset.
Senator Mitch McConnell, in particular, has had enough. At the beginning of this Congress, the Majority said it would meet or exceed the average of 17 circuit court nominees that have been confirmed in prior Congresses; yet it has only confirmed eight circuit court judges thus far. More disturbing, the Chairman of the Committee recently threatened to shut down the confirmation process completely, an action that would break yet another historical precedent.
The Majority said it would treat Republican senate delegations fairly; yet for months, the Democratic Majority has only worked on circuit court nominees from states with a Democratic senator.
Moreover, it appears the Majority did not seriously attempt to honor its commitment. Indeed, since that deadline passed almost two weeks ago, the Democratic Majority has still failed to confirm more circuit court nominees. The Democratic Majority has refused to honor its commitments. It apparently believes that commitments do not matter in the United States Senate, and that actions do not have consequences. Certainly one reason for Senate Democrats to stall on President Bush's nominees is their hope to leave seats open that could be filled by a President Obama.
Even so, I find the level of intransigence a bit surprising. Among other things, the unprecedented slowdown gift wraps an issue for Senator McCain. McCain needs help motivating the conservative base, and there are few issues that resonate among such groups like judicial nominations.
All it would take to disarm the issue would be to confirm a handful of high-profile, exceedingly qualified nominees, such as Peter Keisler, who have widespread support. How plentiful are 2 bed homes on the rental market? How far in advance should I start looking?
Do you have any advice as to an agent to contact for help? If it were me I would make a trip here to Pueblo a few weeks in advance to make arrangements for a rental house. Be prepared to put a deposit on the house. You should be able to check using the county property records for verification. Not often but it happens. When you arrive in Pueblo stop by Colorado Avenue and ask for me. Anyone working there will be able to get a message to me and I can call or meet you to help find a good rental.
Thank you Justin for your wonderful information. I plan to relocate in March, to either Pueblo or Albuquerque. I prefer renting to owning. Your piece has me favoring Pueblo. I will definitely check out the Mesa Junction and Belmont areas. I hope that I will find that perfect rental in a walkable neighborhood. Hi Norah — I hope you choose Pueblo! I think people who criticize Pueblo for its crime rate and what not, may be comparing it to Denver or The Springs but when you compare it to Albuquerque, Pueblo comes out on top!
Thanks for the informative article! My family and I are thinking about moving to Pueblo. We are healthy eaters and the little one and I are vegetarians. We want a to rent a pretty 3 br with charm but fairly modern. Maybe walking distance to a park and a coffee shop.
Do you know if the ground is amenable to planting gardens? Any areas to definitely avoid? We plan to set up a number of appts to view apartments before we move down and find a place within a day or two of our move.
Is that possible there? Also, do you know what the bar scene is like? My bf bartends and also has experience working in construction, welding, etc.
Will it be difficult for him to find work? Thanks, sorry for so many questions! Looking forward to quieter life with a little more space! Hi Melanie — thank you for reading my post and for these questions. For good, safe, walkable neighborhoods I recommend Aberdeen and Mesa Junction plus parts of the Sunset and just north of the State Fairgrounds.
And, yes, you can certainly plant a garden but it will likely be a change from gardening in New Orleans. But, the East side and especially the lower East side south of 4th St.
Same, but to a lesser extent, in parts of Bessemer, the West side as well as the area just north of downtown but south of 17th and west of Elizabeth. I really need to create a neighborhood map of Pueblo to refer to…. Just need a bit of luck. I know some people to ask and could connect you once you arrive.
Generally speaking, like many places, good jobs are difficult to find in Pueblo. Construction work in particular will be a challenge because many skilled people are waiting on the sidelines for housing construction to resume. My husband and I are planning to move to Colorado next summer, probably sometime between June-Sept I am graduating with my BSN in nursing and plan to attend graduate school to become a nurse practitioner a few years down the road.
My husband has 5 years of construction experience and is also obtaining and Information Technology degree online. We had our sights set on Colorado Springs area, but my husband is much more thrilled about a smaller town. What are the biggest differences in Co. What would make us move to Pueblo over Co. The cost of living seems quite low in Colorado Springs for all the wonderful amenities and hospitals they offer. Also, being we are moving from North Dakota which happens to have by far the best job economy in the country what is the job situation like in Pueblo and Co.
Your comments and advice would be much appreciated!! Thanks for the post, Justin! I was wondering about the job market in Pueblo. I live in small town in Missouri and there is nothing here to do as far as jobs go, or even entertainment. I have family in Pueblo West who are really pushing for my wife, son and I to move in with them until we can find work and a home of our own.
Is the job market in Pueblo vast or pretty shallow? Unfortunately, the job market is relatively weak. Some people live in Pueblo and work in Colorado Springs where the population is much larger and the economy is more diverse. If you have nursing or medical training of any kind Parkview and Corwin 2 major hospitals in Pueblo seem to have plenty of positions. That said, it really depends on your skills, background and interests. It also depends on your level of entrepreneurial spirit.
I see tons of opportunity to start and grow businesses here in Pueblo but it requires patience, determination and a long-term vision. It also typically requires short term financial sacrifice and not everyone is in position to make that type of sacrifice. I like the way you are so positive and are able to see things that are not so great about Pueblo.
You see it for the way it is and tell about the good and bad. Work can be scarce. I do agree on the weather it is nice and sunny and I am glad you pointed out how inexpensive it can be to live in Pueblo. However I disagree on restaurants maybe casual at best they are just okay. Anybody from a big city or overseas might differ in your opinion there. There are people that try and come here and with them they bring there culture take over on main that place was divine. I seen the owner and his wife so things with food that was different and exciting.
They even went above to infuse the local produce from Vineland and the county into works of art. There are retailers that try and come here and show the people something different and exciting something that they have never seen. But people here do NOT like anything different. I think Pueblo west is different from the city as a whole.
I think Pueblo would be more vibrant and if it just allowed for things that are cultural to come in and not just Mexican, or italian. That little dutch place has been there for years that was when the mill was recruiting europeans hence the term Bojon. I do like the city park and the library. Both great Places to work and workout.
I wished it was more open culturally. In the meantime I think Pueblo is and always will be a place to raise children. The people and the way they think, truly reflect that. If you have something different to offer the community and you are moving to Pueblo it wont be as easy as it looks.
Chances are it wont last. Michelle, thanks for the comment and your kind words. I agree with you in part in terms of Pueblo being reluctant to support new ideas but I think it cuts two ways. I often see investments in business, real estate etc made by people from out of town — Denver or elsewhere — that are destined for failure from the get-go because of a lack of understanding about what motivates Puebloans to open their wallet and spend money.
The key in Pueblo is to provide excellent value. It has to be a great price or it will struggle. Let me give you an example. They spent way too much money on the property, putting in high-end kitchen appliances, counter-tops and various other luxury amenities.
So, despite a superior location and a terrific product so far as I can tell , the investment was a colossal failure and aside from a few units the place has been almost completely vacant for years.
If someone who understands Pueblo had built the condos they would have been far more modestly priced with fewer luxuries. And the building would now be fully occupied, the investment would have paid back handsomely, etc. Thanks Justin I do agree. Like i mentioned earlier, demographics are changing.. There simply is not enough Economic growth. The best thing about Pueblo is also keeping it from being a place that competes with other markets like Colorado springs and Denver or any of the beautiful mountain communities in Colorado.
But If your looking for for inexpensive living and a relatively great place to raise kids. If only hopefully one day…. Hey Justin… Have to say you are great at depicting Pueblo… I have been looking to re-locate to Colorado from Southern California, North East San Diego County, which is High Desert While I do love the weather here and the general location to many amenities like desert, mountain, ocean, citys, etc. California is just un-reasonable to try to live in economically.. I am still researching, and really appreciate all you have posted about Pueblo..
Hi Mark, thank you for the comment. Should be plenty of affordable options. As far as the gaming industry there are only a few locations offering legal gambling in Colorado.
Cripple Creek would be the closes but not really within commuting distance from Pueblo. I grew up in Pueblo and lived there for 24 years. After having moved to two different cities in Colorado, and now living in Longmont, I have to say that Pueblo is by far the worst.
There is no real industry in Pueblo anymore, and virtually no economic growth. If you telecommute and work from home, then sure it can work though so can any other city. Do not expect to find a high paying job in Pueblo though — though commuting to Springs is a possibility. As far as my own experience? Well, I was robbed twice. Once at my apartment on the South side, other in Bessemer. Wiped out everything — I knew exactly who did it both times and the Police did not care or do a single thing.
One of my best friends was murdered. Drugs, especially opiate pills and crack, have exploded in popularity in recent years. In fact, the people who robbed my house and apartment were druggies addicted to pills — as someone else mentioned, coming in during the daytime while you are at work and grabbing everything valuable is an extremely common occurrence in Pueblo now.
Homicide rates are ridiculous, as is rape, gang violence, etc. I looked at the crime rates for Longmont — where I now live — there has been 0 or 1 murder per year. Overall crime rates there are nearly twice the national average.
Pueblo is a city with -Stagnate population -Very poor economy and a mostly shut down steel industry -Very high crime rate -Cheap houses! I will give it that. I lived mostly on the south side, later in Bessemer, which is where all the really horrible stuff happened.
Hi Chris — thank you for sharing your experience and perspective. Pueblo most certainly has a crime problem. Partly I think Pueblo police are overwhelmed and partly I think they suffer from poor leadership. I suppose that City Council bears some blame but I think idiotic is too harsh. Longmont is indeed a nice community from what little I know about it. A good location near Boulder provides access to economic opportunity but I suspect that the high cost of housing in Longmont is partially responsible for the lower crime rate.
Pueblo could also benefit from greater investment in agricultural productivity. Pueblo has a lot more in common with the rust belt communities in the Midwest than it does with high growth Front Range metros to the north. I see Pueblo as a sunnier and warmer version of Pittsburgh transitioning from a Steel City to a more diverse and technologically advanced economy.
Hopefully I can make a small contribution. Again, thanks for the heads-up. My husband and I are both disabled and live on the eastside, but not very far on the east side.. It is so easy getting around in Pueblo, and the medical care here has been superb and since my husband has had health issues since moving here we have had first hand with the hospitals and emergency services, and I could not complain one bit. Darla — thank you so much for sharing your experience as a resident of the East Side and as someone who has relocated to Pueblo from Colorado Springs.
I hope you and your husband have many happy years in Pueblo. Thanks again for reading and commenting! Thanks so much for an informative article and thanks everyone, for all the comments. I was very pleasantly surprised to see the date this article was published and comments still being posted currently.
We are planning to move to Pueblo next summer from Wisconsin. The climate change will be very welcome, first of all. Wondering about the beer? Husband has gotten used to the smaller craft brews here in WI, and is extremely interested in the availability of those in CO.
We are also bikers, and looking forward to good riding around the area. What about local lawn care services, the smaller independently-owned services, for husband to get a job?
Also, any small engine repair services would be opportunity as well. Any comments or responses with advice are welcome. Hi Sapphire, thanks for the comments! You will indeed love the climate in Pueblo. Bountiful sunshine and pleasant temperatures almost year-round. If his favorites are not in stock just request a special order. Ask for Shannon; she will help you out. Mountains are certainly beautiful for biking and no crowds this far south of Denver.
Not sure about lawn care or small engine repair shops but there should be options for someone with skills and a good midwest work ethic. On the other hand, I think Pueblo is a terrific place to start a business. Pueblo was a great place to grow up. It had a downtown that thrived until the mall was built , and people took pride in their homes. I lived on W. We knew all of the neighbors within a 4-block radius. At that time, the schools were fantastic. Teachers were well educated, and there was strict discipline.
The town supported high school athletics, and everyone went to football games on Friday or Saturday night. I left for northern California in , and now live near Philadelphia. My home on W 11th St, which my dad built after WWll, is too sad to look at any more. The neighborhood has become mostly rentals, and is badly decayed. There are a few gems in the ruins, but this is Pueblo. You can work hard to make your house look nice, but your neighbors can throw their couches and old refrigerators in their front yard and there goes the neighborhood.
I was just in Pueblo in mid October, and encountered 3 stray dogs, in 2 different neighborhoods. My uncle said that stray dogs are a big problem now in Pueblo.
The cost of living is still low, the River Walk is nice, Coors Tavern is still serving up the best sloppers, and PassKey is still in business. Hi Julie — thanks for your comments! Thanks again and best wishes, JH. Justin, Your article touched on all the reasons I went to school and worked hard to come back home to Pueblo.
My husband and I each own our own business, we own our own home on Colorado Avenue, our kids have enjoyed a great education, we have more than we know what to do with activities all the time and we enjoy a twenty minute drive to our second home in Beulah when we want downtime. We love to travel and can easily go anywhere we want out of Springs or Denver and can afford to travel often as our cost of living is so low.
We know our local government representatives and city officials and have the opportunity for personal conversations on issues that affect us. Best of all, we know our neighbors, have a relationship with friends, family and customers everywhere we go and feel a strong sense of our roots and our community.
Glad you are back and thank you for your ongoing welcoming of our new neighbors and friends that are coming to discover a well kept secret!!!! Amy, thank you so much for your kind comments! I strongly suspect we have friends in common and will be crossing paths soon…. Hi Justin, thank you for this site and all of the good, honest comments and advice. I am 65 years old, grew up on Evans ave and Lake ave both considered Bessemer , never any problems, great neighbors!
Walked to Corwin middle school, central HS. I now live in sunset park, and will never move. I think the robberies, violence, etc are generally gang related, sadly. Just need to be vigilant. Yes, avoid the west side near and west of the State hospital. I was a homecare nurse for years, discovered there are good and bad everywhere. Sadly, you are right on about pueblo west, have friends out there, also family, only because building or buying a home is cheaper, bless them!
Their team is now 3 in the nation div Ii. Last year our university hosted the national Div Ii track and field completion. I attended our university, made a very good living as a registered nurse. All of my girls and their husbands attended CSU -P and all have well paying jobs. The high schools are encouraging students to take college classes at PCC while still in HS , now many are graduating HS with a 2 year associates degree.
Read recently that our university had the 2nd lowest tuition in the nation. Oh, and by the way, they just announced millions of dollars have been raised for scholarships and renovating buildings there, so I think they will generate work for newcomers. One last thing, personal. Many of our hardworking men worked the Steel mill after serving time in the military.
Very few Bojons leave pueblo, they follow their fathers, family into good jobs. That is my funny. Now, one last note, my brother has lived in Colorado Springs for 40 years got a teaching job there out of college , he hates it. The traffic, always transients, and the military.
Says people are unfriendly and rude. There you have the haves and have nots, here we have tolerance, and a love for all. Thank you once again! Maribeth, thank you so much for sharing these comments! I think this approach runs contrary to many accepted ideas regarding what it means in America for your children to succeed. I also love the anecdote about your daughter making a 6-figure salary as a drug rep. If you really want to live in Pueblo and you really want to make good money it can certainly can be done but you have to MAKE it happen.
Those who complain about low salaries are often expecting to just show up with a job application and, in return, receive a solid middle class salary. That was possible in the 70s, in Pueblo, Detroit, Cleveland, Pittsburgh and lots of other places with a manufacturing-based economy; but those days are long gone. Hope we cross paths in Pueblo one of these days. I would rather sit on the beach by the bonfire, eating smores while watching the sunset over Lake Michigan than be at the Pueblo Reservoir.
There are many great things about Pueblo, the people, the food, and the low cost housing but your salary for those of us who work for a business in Pueblo reflects the low cost of living.
Hi Mark, thanks for the comments! Northern Michigan is perhaps one of the most under-appreciated places in all of North America. However, I also experienced eight grey, brutally cold Michigan winters. So, while I will concede the summer season, I will take Pueblo over Michigan the other 9 months of the year…and by a landslide from Jan to May. So, given the option, I would choose a hot summer in Pueblo over a cold winter in Michigan every day of the week.
Maybe we should charter a bus from Pueblo to Petoskey in July? Just wanted to thank you for the straight-forward, yet detailed summary of life in Pueblo. It was just what I was looking for. Hi Mike — Thanks for your comments! I grew up in Pueblo, from the time I was 2 until the time I was When I moved away, it was a bit of a culture shock, and I often felt very idiotic when presented with new information that I had assumed to be true everywhere in the United States.
First, were issues concerning diversity. Moving away from Pueblo, I was shocked to learn how Latino and Hispanic individuals were regarded. It had never even crossed my mind. Also, Latino individuals are so integrated and Americanized, that it was odd to me when I met Latino people who only spoke Spanish when I left Pueblo. And Pueblo most certainly did not prepare me for interacting with African-Americans.
I got used to it though. Another instance when I felt completely out-of-place outside of Pueblo was when I was in the Army. I was studying to be a medic in the Army, and we started to learn about certain diseases that existed. Anyway, I learned that day that the plague is really only prevalent in Southern Colorado and Northern New Mexico for the most part. Because of this reputation for seemingly dead diseases or in the case of Sin Nombre and West Nile, new diseases , I also have met other people from Colorado who view Pueblo as a third-world-country.
This view of Pueblo is reinforced by the rampant poverty. It is also interesting to note that Pueblo residents seem to suffer from cancer and degenerative disorders more frequently than I have noticed in other places I have lived.
Add that to the fact that there is the Pueblo Chemical Depot right outside of town, housing mustard gas and who knows what else, there are plenty of reasons why I will never return to live in Pueblo. An interesting anecdote about the Pueblo Chemical Depot: While growing up, we were informed that the Depot was nothing to worry about at all, and that it was a relatively small compound. When I was in college, I looked it up via Google Maps and discovered that the Depot is almost the exact same size as Pueblo itself.
The Depot houses tons of mustard gas that is over 5 million pounds of mustard gas. Thanks for sharing your perspective. I can definitely relate to some of your experience in terms of finding different cultural norms in different parts of the US. Health problems in Pueblo probably correlate more strongly with income than with any other variable. The Pueblo Chemical Depot does indeed have tons of chemical weapons in storage, all of it scheduled to be destroyed in the next 5 years see http: The most interesting part of your comments have to do with Pueblo being viewed as a 3rd world country.
As you acknowledge, Pueblo has a strong Latino influence with a majority or near majority Hispanic population. This makes them uncomfortable so they make disparaging comments about Pueblo. To those people I say, go back to the s where you belong. That makes people uncomfortable and they trash Pueblo. Hi Penny, I think you are right on target. I hope Pueblo works out for you! I live and work in Tampa and hope to retire in about 6 yrs.
Really the only reason I continue to live here is my job. I definitely have Pueblo and the surrounding areas on my radar. We have been looking for a house in Fl.
My wife likes to cook and would like a large kitchen with a formal dining room. Hard to find in Fl. Definitely an impossibility in Fl. I assume when you say Pueblo has a large Latino population it is predominately Mexican? My wife is Peruvian and speaks very little English.
Hi Gerald, It sounds like Pueblo would work nicely for your situation after retirement. Plenty of inexpensive houses with basements. You may need to budget for a kitchen remodel as most bargains would be older homes with smaller kitchens. I would think it would be doable but challenging. Hi Justin My friend Rod White sent me your link and was happy to read all of the good things you had to say about Pueblo.
All of the same reasons I moved from So. I never experienced this in Cal. Iif you want to come by my house sometime I can show you somethings you might not know about this fair city. Hi Tom — thank you for reading and for adding this comment.
Having lived in several places where no one knew my name I can relate and agree completely. My family and I relocated to Pueblo from Santa Monica because the crime and congestion became too much. The first thing we noticed was the friendliness of the folks here. As soon as we settled in, the CFI mill went down. Families really suffered in the resulting economy. Just start asking the people you meet how they came to Pueblo and why.
You will be surprised at what you find out. We are quite cosmopolitan for a small place. Hi Art — thanks for sharing your experience! Thanks again for the comment! I was so happy to find this thread just now when I looked up city data for pueblo. The springs is too big and expensive for a 51 year old from a tiny central California town. Looking to make the leap as early as next month, and am utterly charmed by the diversity I have been digging up about pueblo.
My main — simple — consideration is the ability to keep my pets: Perhaps you could point me in a good direction? My next line of inquiry during the next week or so will be the feasibility of setting up a small business there, storefront or internet.
And I am going to share your page on fb; perhaps it will allay the fear my daughter has about my not living in the same town.
Hi Shari — glad you found my post and thank you for your kind words. Finding a place to rent with lots of pets will probably be a challenge but not insurmountable. I hope your move goes well and that Pueblo works out for you. You have mentioned that the east side is rough.
Are there any other spots to stay away from? Focussing on the Minneaqua Area? The lower East side and Bessemer probably have the most crime. Minnequa is okay but depends on where in Minnequa. Great bargains on homes, very walkable and crime is not too bad. Looking to move to area also. Moved out of California was wanting better place for kids 4 of them to mo.
Things are just to slow here. Colorado recent laws has put a sparkle in my eyes one I would compare to the first settlers crossing the west. My plan is in no way to start that kind of work again but well qualified. Wanting to further my culinary career seeing the number of resturants in mile radius to Pablo says this is the place.
Looking to rent not buy. Seems to be a wide range in pricing. Almost an underground railroad feeling. My worst fear is to rent a place over the phone get there and were the only family in a crime ridden ghetto.
Once they deposit tax money where out of here. Was a communications specialist for sprint a chef and past grower who graduated for oaksterdam university. I feel there is hope in Colorado. But with no family ther or anywhere. My lil trib is all I got! Thanks for you writing they have helped to inspire me more. Looking for a friend and point of contact. Wife was offered work by a nice man and the urban bar and grill said to come to pueblo money in Denver.
Well thanks again Justin any more insight would ne great. Hi Matthew, thanks for the note. Let me know how I might be able to help. My husband and I, along with our two year old daughter and Rottweiler Chief, are planning a move to Colorado at the end of the year. We are full time RVers and my husband works from home on the internet. I also plan on homeschooling.
I have read what you have said about Pueblo west but do you have any information on Forts or Haggards? They are also under new management, according to the reviews. Would you happen to know who owns them and if they are planning on doing something about the water quality?
Also, if we did decide to purchase land, where would be the best place where building codes would be lax. Earthships are up to building codes, but usually in developments closer to the city, there are HOAs and God forbid someone has a garden or a green house rather than a lawn. Please feel free to email me any time! Glad to hear that Pueblo is on your radar screen. Based only this comment I would suggest that you learn more about Beulah, a small community nestled in the foothills of the Wet Mountains about 20 minutes southwest of Pueblo.
Another possibility would be Rye a bit further south. Something tells me that one of these communities might be your kind of place. I think this article on your blog is excellent. Appreciated is the time you have taken to answer all messages. That is how a blog is supposed to work. I am not interested in living right in Pueblo, but in a rural mountainous area somewhere within a 50 mile radius of Pueblo.
I am looking for a acre partially wooded parcel and this can be off-grid property as I plan on solar. Since there are lots of days of sunshine in this area it is ideal for solar and that is really what attracts me to the area. Can you advise where might be the best locations within 50 miles of Pueblo for finding off-grid real estate. I would even consider acreage with a cabin already built, but probably will have to buy the land first and do this in stages to get the cabin built.
If I could find a property that already has a well and septic that would be preferable, but not a requirement. Dennis, I am so glad you found my blog! I would love to work with you on this location decision! Do you have time to collaborate? Let me know how I might contact you directly. If you prefer, maybe leave a private message here or send a DM to justinholman on Twitter. I would appreciate collaborating with you. I do not use the social sites much, but you can find me on Facebook.
We can also collaborate directly through our individual preferred email providers if you like. Actually that is how I usually communicate with friends, family, and business associates. If you want to send an email to my gmail account I can also provide you with my cell number.
Thanks for your insightful and balanced thoughts. My husband and I are strongly considering opening a small business in Pueblo in the next few months. We visited the city today to see it for ourselves and we like what we see. Thank you so much for your kind words! I hope it works out for you. Feel free to contact me if I can be of service.
I am 56 yrs old and have lived in Alabama all my life. I am considering moving to the Pueblo area soon and would like some recommendations, please, as to what areas might me low crime, affordable, friendly, and fun to live and retire. Please let me know if I can help in any way and best wishes on the move! Thanks so much for your quick response. I will definitely check that out.
Pueblo is only 4, feet so, unless you have a medical condition that might make you more vulnerable, you should be fine. Typically, you have to go above 8,, ft before altitude sickness becomes an issue. Hi Justin, thank you for your informational article! My husband and I are looking to relocate to Pueblo for Ohio.
We are looking to rent rent to own as are many. Thanks for mentioning the safe and not so safe areas to look at! We own our own small business from home and would love to join the community of Pueblo!! Justin, thank you for your informational article on Pueblo! We found your neighborhood analysis very helpful. We are looking to rent, or rent to own. We also own our own small business from home!
Any advice would be wonderful, thanks! My husband and I are forcibly retired, have finally dumped our home in NJ, and are looking for an inexpensive place to live that has pluses art and music, good ethnic food, diversity, sunny climate while still having four seasons.
Pueblo is on our very short list, but as older folk we are concerned about crime. Any suggestions you have would be most appreciated, as we are on a limited housing budget but very much want to live in Pueblo not PWest.
Thank you so much for your article! Thank you for your kind words! Crime is an issue for sure but a little common sense will allow you to avoid the vast majority of problems.
Belmont is indeed a very nice neighborhood and I definitely would recommend it. Not sure, maybe you mean Mineral Palace? The area near Parkview hospital and Mineral Palace park? I like that area as well. Lovely historic homes near 18th and Greenwood and thereabouts. Hope this helps and I hope you find a home in Pueblo! It's become one of my most popular posts and has facilitated a number of new friendships and […]. This is a great analysis. Congratulations on your upcoming move! I discovered this post quite a long time after it was originally published, but more and more, Pueblo is looking like a great place to move and start a family.
Collins, and Windsor, etc. These communities are growing awfully quickly and are becoming over saturated with professionals.
In short, we are thinking of moving to Pueblo and it is wonderful to see a positive write-up from you about a great up-and-coming city! And, on behalf of everyone in Pueblo, we look forward to welcoming you! Yes, I agree, the sprawl in Northern Colorado is reaching a tipping point. If you could manage to get a deal where you telecommute most of the time and drive up to Denver for face-time once a week you would save a bundle in housing costs.
And probably spend less time in your car overall. I just read your post and enjoyed it very much. I was born and raised in Pueblo. I have always believed that our city had so much to offer but was worried that to many people would come to live.
I have learned that new people only continues to expands the culture here in Pueblo. The 4 Cs does cover our town, thanks for your story. Before I forget the south side of town is the best side, of course I grew up and have lived south of the river.
Hi Mike, thanks for your kind words! Thanks again for taking the time to read and comment! I wrote you back on Dec 29th thanks for your response , and made my big move landing in the springs on super bowl Sunday. So now looking in earnest for a rental in pueblo. Being on disability my parameters might be a bit narrow but I think not unrealistic; I feel my needs are simple and few. I need 2 bedrooms and a fenced yard. I dislike going through rental management companies, preferring to communicate with individuals.
Are you aware of other avenues I might be missing? I always look on craigslist, as well. Hi Shari — Welcome to Pueblo! Not sure about advice re where to look aside from Craigslist et al.
You might check to see if the Pueblo Community College has listings. You could also call the Housing Authority of Pueblo. They process Section 8 applications so may not be able to help directly but they may have some good leads if you get the right person on the phone. Your best bet might be to drive the neighborhoods that you like and look for signs. Let me know if you have additional questions. So glad I found this site. My husband, teenager daughter and I are strongly considering moving to Pueblo.
My only concern is the schools…. I have a year old freshman in advanced classes in Wisconsin public school. High school is a tough one. I think Centennial is the best public high school in Pueblo. Some people think Pueblo West is better. If your daughter is ambitious she may like the early college program offered in cooperation with the Pueblo Community College. You might check it out.
I need a good realator to find me a low priced home in a good area.. Comcast and CenturyLink nee Qwest seem to be the only options. I will send you an email re real estate. I may take a job at the Chemical Depot this summer. Are there any good neighborhoods close by the Depot? I would like to rent a house. Hi Mark — congrats on the job offer! I think Belmont or University Park would be your best bet for proximity to the Depot but still convenient to schools, shopping, entertainment, etc.
For shopping you can get most big box stuff on the north side of town near I and US Great local restaurants and niche stores tend to be downtown, on Union Ave, in the Mesa Junction neighborhood off Abriendo or near the Steel Mill in Bessemer.
Colo Springs has everything else 45 min away. My husband and I are considering a big move to Pueblo this summer or fall. We currently reside in Denver, but we are tired of the traffic, growth, and cost of living that seems to have gotten out of control in the last years. I wrote a little bit about it; you can view my post here:.
Overall, it seems like it could have a lot to offer. My husband and I graduated from law school and college respectively at the height of the recession, so we are just trying to find a good place to start out.
Hi Natalie — great post! Look forward to seeing you around town. Thank you so much. I love reading your blog! Happy springtime to you and your family! Justin — Thanks so much for you input on Pueblo. Pueblo is a top choice right now for my destination move. I disabled but have two teen age kids.
We are coming from Mcallen Texas area, the second cheapest place to live in the US. We loved living in Montana my youngest kids were born there. I love what I am finding about Pueblo. I love all the activities available for my kids. Housing prices for renting are very close to what I pay now. However I am a bit concerned about jobs for my son.
He has a lot factory, fork lift, and building skills. I know the unemployment rate is high. However are jobs out there or are the jobs few and far between. I also wonder about part time jobs for my teens which are hard here.
With the higher Hispanic population is speaking Spanish for jobs a demand. This is my only worry about finalizing Pueblo as our choice moving destination this summer. Any help with info here would be great. Hi Sandra — thanks for these questions! Unemployment is relatively high here in Pueblo but a few recent announcements have brought good news. The new giant solar array will likely bring plenty of jobs, the Chemical Depot and Vestas both recently announced plans to hire more workers, and a major I bridge re-construction project is scheduled to begin in August.
All this bodes well for jobs. If possible, I would recommend a try-before-you-buy visit to see if Pueblo is the place for you. If travel is a challenge maybe send your son on a scouting mission. I will be visiting Pueblo the second week of July to see if I will move there two to three years from now.
Like others , I saw Pueblo on the cheap places to live list. My questions for you are , is using a bicycle for transport. Since you started this blog two years ago , how has the job market in Pueblo changed? Is there investing by wealthy Pueblobians in job creation and small businesses? What about any places to see live music other than the symphony? If I think of anything else I will repost. Thanx Again , Best Regards , David.
Hi David — thanks for joining the thread! Answers to your questions below. I would love to bike from my house to CSU-P but too many highway lanes in between. Someone needs to do more. Lots of stuff in summer promoted by downtown businesses, but not enough the rest of the year. Plus it seems like the same bands are always playing.
Hi again Justin , Thanks for the info. My property and house are valued between , — , dollars , footprint covers 20 FT by FT. Does the city do trash serv.
What bars are good for a forty y. Hi David, City does not provide trash service but there are a number of service providers and a healthy competitive market.
Aside from that, yes, I think the property tax estimates are fairly accurate and inclusive. We also pay sales tax of course. The Shamrock is pretty good. And Tsunami seems to have a lively scene if you like sushi. New brewpub opening up in the old police station. I wanted to ask your opinion of the State Fair neighborhood? We found an adorable home that we love there, but we know nothing about the neighborhoods in Pueblo other than Aberdeen and Mesa Junction.
Any insight you could give would be greatly appreciated.
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